Lost empathy for yourself? You've already lost the fight.
This week, Tammy Triolo reveals the shocking connection between self-empathy loss and narcissistic abuse.
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🔹 Tammy walks you through recognizing when thoughts are just thoughts—not truth—and how to stop surrendering to negative beliefs.
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TAMMY'S BOOKS
• The Empathy Gap: It Is Black and White
• Workbook
MORE ABOUT TAMMY TRIOLO
Tammy Triolo is a cultural strategist, author, and creator of the Empathy Scorecard. As founder of PCQ Consulting, she works with companies to improve culture and develop sustainable DEI initiatives.
• Website: tammytriolo.com
• Social: @tammytriolo on TikTok and Instagram
• Podcast: The Empathy Lab (Substack)
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Resources
- The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources
- First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course
- Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support
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Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust.
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This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).




