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Can Someone Be Both Covert AND Overt? Understanding Narcissistic Types & What Actually Matters

January 8, 2026

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Can Someone Be Both Covert AND Overt? Understanding Narcissistic Types & What Actually Matters
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“My partner has traits of both covert and overt narcissism—is that possible?” This week’s Fan Mail question comes from a podcast listener who writes:

“Can a person be both a covert and an overt narcissist? I’m hearing the descriptions of each and my partner has traits of both.” In this episode, Dr. Kerry breaks down the confusing language around narcissistic types—what “covert” and “overt” actually mean (hint: they describe symptoms, not people), why your partner can absolutely show both presentations, and most importantly, why the type matters far less than the pattern of harm you’re experiencing.

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Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D, a retired psychologist & author, is an expert on cultivating healthy relationships and deconstructing narcissism.

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