You’ve tried explaining yourself. You’ve tried having the conversation. But what happens when nothing changes, no matter how carefully you say it?
When you’ve spent so long questioning yourself, it can be difficult to trust your own judgment about what’s happening.
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Has someone you trusted ever put your life at risk, then acted like it was all in good fun?
In this episode, Kerry sits down with journalist, and former whitewater raft guide Melanie Hamlett to explore why so many men treat danger as entertainment. Together they unpack how male conditioning strips away empathy and why ego and adrenaline override common sense. They also examine why so many women are taught to trust a confident man over their own intuition, even when lives are on the line.
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Melanie Hamlett is a comedian, journalist, and storyteller based in Lyon, France. Her work has appeared in Harper’s Bazaar, The Washington Post, Glamour, Slate, and The Daily Beast. That includes a viral Harper’s Bazaar piece that has been cited in dozens of podcasts, books, and articles. She’s a multiple-time Moth winner. Before moving into writing and comedy, she spent years as a whitewater raft guide, an Outward Bound wilderness instructor, and a ski instructor. That firsthand experience shapes her work on the hidden dangers women face in the outdoors and in relationships.
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MelanieHamlett
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melhamlett/
00:00 Why river guides flip the raft on purpose
00:36 Meet Melanie Hamlett
04:53 A woman died on my first day as a raft guide
08:58 Don’t let a man override your intuition
11:35 My father’s dangerous stunts with us kids
14:17 Why do men put women in danger?
18:35 How men are raised to be reckless
22:46 Why women keep taking care of these men
26:09 Why smart women still default to men
28:40 When “toughing it out” nearly kills you
30:40 They call it carnage, like it’s fun
36:04 Where to find Melanie
36:48 Coming up in the Podcast Extra
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